Muzic Net NZ 5 Star Review!

June 21st, 2019

Awesome review of ‘SILENCE’ the album in

This duo has ethos which fits in perfectly with their anarchist punk sounding lyrics “they reject most mainstream ideology” and have in the past been described as “social commentators”. Oh boy do they have a solid punk rock sound to back up those no bull lyrics. There is an obvious classic UK punk influence invading their music lending to the energetic, bold and full bodied sound. Resisting all things wrong with modern life never sounded so good. With gritty and honest cross-generational lyrics, Older should appeal to a varied range of listeners. The lyrics are a worldly-wise hard-hitting wakeup call, which are laced with rebellion. A total breathe of fresh air and perhaps slightly tongue in cheek. Superbly creative and intelligent song writing.

Read the full review here.


Silence Album Photo Shoot

May 20th, 2019

We had a blast at a local old rail line near Huntly taking photos among the decay and rust! It was a perfect backdrop for the vibe we were looking for.

Huge thanks to Brian Smith for these photos – Brian you are a star! Drop him a line of you’re looking for photos for yourself …


May 1st 2019 marked the release of our debut album 'Silence' for sale online, and available through all the major streaming services. The CD is planned to be released over Winter 2019.

It's been an amazing four-year journey of writing & recording far more songs than were needed, so in the end we had to cut it down to our 15 favourite songs. Each represents a subject dear to our hearts and collectively they fit together as a cohesive work spanning all our styles and moods. People rarely listen to albums from start to end in the digital age but if you do we hope you find, like others, that it's a 'grower'. After a few spins people have said they get it and that's how we like it. Sometimes tracks that grab you instantly don't stand the test of time.

One comment that has stood out is that we are 'social commentators' - this is a huge accolade for us because that's exactly how we see our songs.

We've written much about the release on our album page and on the various sites that host the album. For here, and now, we just have a big thank you to Cindy & Dell who have celebrated, with us, our madness and unconventional ways. Perhaps we are just 'chips off the old block'. Those moments you asked, encouraged & just said something, anything meant the world to us. Now this will be odd, but the biggest thanks go to 'us' for not giving up, for refusing to act our age, for sticking our necks out and just 'doing it'. Now you go do the same!!

Read more about the album here with BUY links.

Love OLDER xx

OLDER 'Silence' - The album



We have had the best of weekends filming an awesome new professional video for ‘Silence’ with professionals Jared, Guillaume, Duli, Isa, Sarah & Sam!

We first contacted Jared Jones who, as a Director Of Photography, had some concepts for a music video that needed a soundtrack. ‘Silence’ fitted and we loved his idea so it was a great mutual opportunity to work together. Jared brought in the team – Director Guillaume Arnoulet, Camera Assistant Duli Gunasekera, First Assistant Director Sam Skeath, Makeup Artist Isa Lilai and Runner Sarah Dunn. 

The team were an absolute pleasure to work with. They were consummate professionals but also knew how to have fun. For 48 hours the house was buzzing with the energy of true creatives. Every shot presented a challenge and every solution was a collaboration of imaginations working towards the same goal. In the downtime guitars, drums and a ukulele were played and songs sung. The spa was full, food was plentiful and whiskey flowed. This was the perfect world for us.

We won’t say exactly how the video will unfold but it will be laden with bleak and dramatic scenes – our makeup is post-apocalyptic and the subject matter is dark.


In it for the money?

May 1st, 2018

There’s a bit of an odd idea that musicians have always been worshiped and capable of making fortunes …. well not quite.

Wind the clock back before rock’n’roll corrupted youth in the 1950’s and popular music started to throw up stars, and you’ll find few big names with big fortunes. It wasn’t that long ago that talented musicians were no more than servants hired for an evening to entertain the wealthy’s party guests. Socially they were somewhere between chamber maids and butlers, but closer to chamber maids. To declare aspirations to be a paid virtuoso was not exactly a career move and in the the higher echelons of society it would have been positively disgraceful. 

The rock or pop star as we know them has been just a transitory blip in what has been centuries of disdain for the worth of both music and musicians. From the minstrels of medieval courts to vaudeville and then the incredible talent of silent film pianists, musicians have always been poor and undervalued. Then for a short time it changed. For those born in the 60’s most of their adult lives have been punctuated by the ‘music industry’. This phenomenon created the idea of ‘making it’ and that if neither fame nor fortune were achieved then a musician was deemed a failure. So much money was made, so much ascribed to the cult of celebrity. However, the industry was large enough and diverse enough to support far more musicians than today.

The development of the record and affordable players enabled music to be sold to the masses. Radio marketed the records. Live was special, after all there was no YouTube. But the technology of records both created and simultaneously began the end of the ‘golden era’ of music. First you paid to hear music live, then you paid to hear it at home, then technology progressed until you could hear anything anytime for free and even watch it for free. On the creative side there was a filtering system so only bands of worth recorded because it was expensive. Technology changed that. Punk started the real demise of the music industry and the internet finished it off.

At first the internet was very exciting for the early adopters. I was part of a panel in the UK in the early 2000’s that advised musicians on how to promote their music online & make money. This was before YouTube and Facebook – it was the days of MySpace. Bands had real opportunity but wind forward to 2018 and Facebook, the biggest Social network online, has sucked up audiences and destroyed the ability to reach out to fans. They force you to spend money to reach people then charge you money to send posts to the very people who want to hear from you. This is the stuff of postage and envelopes not the freedom of the internet. We are back to the pre-internet days in terms of marketing. Now, more than ever, you need money and lots of it to reach people on or offline. 

Yes, now we can all record our own music, though its not as easy to do as some would have you believe. We can upload to endless websites and there is sits lost in a sea of brilliance and, well … the not so good.

New Zealand has one of the highest ratio of radio stations per population and yet many still play tired old playlists with little support for local independent artists. The biggest exception is National Radio who are brilliant at introducing unknown artists yet how many music buying fans make up their audience? It’s public radio at its best but lost on those who wouldn’t be seen dead listening to it.

In the end music is of huge spiritual value but little financial value. Today young people simply do not expect to pay for it, and so artists can not expect to make a living from it. It’s gone back to the days prior to the 1950s. You could say ‘pop ate itself and crapped itself out’.

So are we in it for the money? No, absolutely not. And more fool anyone entering what’s left of the music business to make money. We do however want an audience. We know there are a lot of people out there who would enjoy our music but reaching them is proving impossible without big marketing budgets – and that was never what Punk was about. But onwards we go, hand-in-hand with some awesome folks around us as equally passionate about their art as us. And that’s what it comes down to … ART.


Bells & Whistles

October 14th, 2017

Finally we’re proud to go live on our website – yep, if you’re reading this then everything has gone to plan.

We’ve been writing and producing music for the past few years together as OLDER and the number of tracks have crept up on us. We thought it was about time we released an album, or a ‘collection’, which we are working on now. Getting the housekeeping in order was equally important so we thought we’d behave and get the website up first.

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Farewell the quarter acre dream

October 13th, 2017

We live rural. We didn’t used to.

We lived in 1/8th acre yard (500+sqm plot of land) in suburban Auckland. We had a veggie plot, around 15 fruit trees and ditched the cars in the driveway to make way for a workshop to build things ‘n stuff.

A year ago when we sold up and moved down country. We’d written and produced Banshee on the cusp of a revelation, as with many of our tracks, an audio diary of what was happening in our heads. Our heads are very busy so it take a bit to break through into song!

Bear with us…

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September 19th, 2017


Album fillers - or interludes as they are known in fancy circles - we love them! Sometimes they are the highlights of an album - between tracks, or hidden a couple of minutes after the last song has finished. This is the first of many we intend to write - Vanilla - a bit over produced perhaps (it's really hard not to!) but short and sweet all the same. No one does vanilla in this exciting world, right?

Released 13 September 2017


Give me chocolate, raspberry sorbet - hey
Give me sprinkles, crunchy praline - hmm
But where I draw the line though
Where people queue and flock go
I just don't do vanilla

Waffle cone. the shape don't matter - no
On a stick, or laid on a platter - hmm
Dress it up any way you choose
I got the bruise to prove it
I just don't do vanilla

Lips go numb, brain freeze
Sticky fingers, wobbly knees
Change the menu please

I just don't do vanilla

Vanilla - OLDER


Vanilla is available as a single or on the SILENCE album.

Other songs on SILENCE:


20 Years Old

January 24th, 2016

We’re not. We’re OLDER.

But I’M SORRY was written half a lifetime ago by Jel and we thought we’d give it a brush down and shine up a few edges.

One of the slower, more methodical songs you will probably hear from us, it was written – yes, before the internet. Maybe I need to write a letter…maybe I need to make a call.  Shocking as it may seem, we used to do that sort of stuff.

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Less Ordinary

December 26th, 2015

Being ordinary bores us. We try to go there as little as possible.

… but at times we smile and nod only in the clear knowledge that we can always rely on insanity to keep things real.

Insanity – like selling a perfectly adequate house (goodbye The Bunker) a buying a 90 year old bungalow with original un-insulated walls that smelled like boiled cabbage. It has a backyard though of particularly well composted soil. Noted. Old punks never die, they just move to the country and grow veges. It isn’t the country. That’s the next step. For now, it’s smack in the middle of suburbia. Er, well.

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